From cube-lovers-errors@mc.lcs.mit.edu Thu Jul 31 17:38:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: from sun30.aic.nrl.navy.mil by mc.lcs.mit.edu (8.8.1/mc) with SMTP id RAA22750; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 17:38:53 -0400 (EDT) Precedence: bulk Errors-To: cube-lovers-errors@mc.lcs.mit.edu Mail-from: From ponder@austin.ibm.com Thu Jul 31 16:55:58 1997 Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 15:52:23 -0500 From: ponder@austin.ibm.com (Ponder) Message-Id: <9707312052.AA16660@roosevelt.austin.ibm.com> To: Cube-Lovers@ai.mit.edu Subject: Rubik's octahedron's etc. Cc: ponder@austin.ibm.com I have a Rubik's Cube and a Megaminx Dodecahedron. There are some tetrahedral puzzles available but they do not correspond precisely to the Rubik's cube, in that they do not have well-defined center pieces and the corners are freely rotating. As far as I can tell, nobody has an octa- hedron or an icosahedron that works on these principles either. Its hard to expect the puzzle companies to come out with anything like these since they're in it for a profit. I heard that Meffert's company closed down before they could produce most of the puzzles they intended. Does anyone have designs for puzzles like these that could be built in a machine-shop? (Preferably that you've already patented, to eliminate any legal concerns!!). I imagine I could try to hack something together, but it would take an awful lot of trial-and-error especially since some internal designs would hold together better than others. I'm publishing a paper in the Journal of Recreational Mathematics on solving these other puzzles, but it would be real nice to have demo models, even if it takes some work. The Octahedron is particularly interesting because it forbids edge-flips and it would be more convincing if I do more than show it on paper. Thanks, Carl Ponder ponder@austin.ibm.com