From dik@cwi.nl Mon Dec 27 18:43:04 1993 Return-Path: Received: from charon.cwi.nl by life.ai.mit.edu (4.1/AI-4.10) for /com/archive/cube-lovers id AA24660; Mon, 27 Dec 93 18:43:04 EST Received: from boring.cwi.nl by charon.cwi.nl with SMTP id AA15198 (5.65b/3.12/CWI-Amsterdam); Tue, 28 Dec 1993 00:43:03 +0100 Received: by boring.cwi.nl id AA25571 (4.1/2.10/CWI-Amsterdam); Tue, 28 Dec 93 00:43:02 +0100 Date: Tue, 28 Dec 93 00:43:02 +0100 From: Dik.Winter@cwi.nl Message-Id: <9312272343.AA25571.dik@boring.cwi.nl> To: Cube-Lovers@life.ai.mit.edu Subject: Re: Group theory basics (Re: Symmetry) One additional remark: > > Well, if P is a rotation operator, you could perform a rotation > > two ways. I guess one is pre-multiplication and one is > > post-multiplication. > > 1) For i = 1 to 24 B(i) = A(P(i)) > I would write this as B = P A, and say that A is premultiplied by P, > or equivalently that P is postmultiplied by A. There is quite a bit of confusion about this. When permutation groups are considered; even text-books do not agree. When A and P are permutations you can find both that P A means: apply P first, A next, but also: apply A first, P next. (The first meaning comes from the pure group theorists, the second meaning more from the algebra inclined.) Sorry to confuse the issue, but when I read such texts I have always to think hard to get at the intended meaning. I think the functional notation is much clearer and leads to less confusion. Of course, doing notations for cube rotations the group theorists notation is applied, but when doing abstract operations...